Been using these since they came out. The 1 5/8oz 3” loads are extremely deadly in my turkey gun. I’ve shot all there makes…the regular Turkey, Ninja, and some Small Batch #10’s. All do not leave an inch opening in a 30” circle at 42 yards. I’m not an all in a 10” circle kind of hunter, I love that open pattern. With that said out of three states hunted last year my farthest shot was 23yds…closest I had to wait until it walked on out to 17yds. I buy just about every time they have them available. I will NEVER run out of shells in my lifetime based on hunting 3-4 different states a year. Highly highly recommend. I’ve tried other manufacturers for fun and they all blow apart, guessing they load them way too hot.